LOST "Dave" Airdate: April 5, 2006
I would like to apologize on behalf of JJ Abrams and the writers of LOST for the worst opening in the history of the show. If this was your first time tuning in, you may be wondering what the big deal is about this show, and we may have "lost" you before the first commercial break. They didn't even show the usual "previously on Lost" promo. If you did tune out, you missed some important details as the show got progressively better.
Take for instance...oh,hang on...*dry heave*...I'll start as soon as I get this 9 1/2 weeks image with Hurley and Libby substituting Dharma ranch and cream corn for vegetables...*bleck* Ok, I'm better now...Hey! They have been on the island over 60 days. Maybe it really has been 9 and 1/2 weeks. No way. The writers wouldn't dare.
We finally learn the Hurley/Libby connection. Earlier, I thought she may have been one of his doctors in the mental hospital. I was somewhat surprised to learn she was a patient. If your Tivo cut off then you totally missed the "Twilight Zone" ending. Here's Libby's pic from the nut house. Looks like she's a little depressed:
I assume that we will get a Libby backstory soon as to why she was in the hospital. I bet they save it for season three.
We also learn why Hurley's mom put him in the mental hospital. He blamed himself and his weight for a deck collapse that killed two people. Number alert!!! After watching this scene again or rather listening to it, I discovered that there were 23 people on the deck, and it was only meant to hold 8 people.
This accident put Hurley into a catatonic state in which all he did was eat. I'm no clinical psychologist, but the whole "Dave" thing leads me to believe that Hurley is a paranoid schizophrenic. Isn't schizophrenia in one's genes. Can it be brought about by a traumatic experience like the one Hurley had? The drug that Hurley was taking in the flashback and what he was asking Sawyer for was Clonazepam.
It's a drug used to treat seizures and control anxiety. Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but it appears that he was not on the correct meds for his true ailment.
Dave the character was steering us viewers in the direction of a theory that has long since been discussed; that this is all in Hurley's head. I'm not sure why they would take us there now except to negate that entire theory. I can only hope that the writers don't string us along and then present us with a St. Elsewhere ending. I will have to physically print out my blog and burn it in a bag of flaming pooh on JJ's doorstep if that's the case. Hopefully not.
I knew right before the doc pulled out his camera that Dave was nothing more than a figment. It was the ol' Fight Club/A Beautiful Mind set up. Two great movies by the way and I don't think I have them listed on the My Space favorite movies. Let me go add them right now.
(...no...no...stay focused.)
Let's see. What else happened?
Sayid catches fake Henry... let's call him Gary Lehen for now (Just running the Ethan Rom anagram machine on the name...you also get Helen Gary. Do we know Helen's last name? I need to go back and watch Lockdown again). Anyway, Sayid catches him in another lie about the real Henry Gale. Fake Henry...er...Gary says he was found dead in the balloon. Real Henry wrote a note on a $20 to his wife saying he was going to put out a signal fire on the beach. He couldn't have been dead. Here's a capture:
Rousseau said when they first captured him that he would lie. He says later in the episode that he is done lying. Are we to believe him about the hatch? I've said from the beginning that the hatch was nothing more than psychological training facility to see how long a subject would follow instructions. The fact that Henry says that nothing happened when the clock ran out solidifies my hypothesis... but he is a professed liar. (damn it! I'm flip-flopping again) Here's a strange screen capture:
Does he have a rope on his other wrist? Or is he just holding his arm up in the air like that? This image reminds me of some art I have seen of Christ on the Cross. I wish I could locate a picture to compare. There was a short conversation about God in this episode. Fake Henry says, "God doesn't know how long we have been here. He can't see this island any better than the rest of the world can." It says in the gospels that while Jesus was on the cross he called out, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?" The Others have been forgotten... or at least they think they have. But, why would supplies still be arriving though? I have a feeling this is just another of my way out theories.
Supplies? Hmmmm. Why didn't anyone hear a plane? It would have to be flying at a pretty high altitude to make no sound at all. And to be able to make a drop on a small island in the pacific is pretty amazing. Maybe that's where the magnet comes into play. A magnetic guide to bring the supply parachute in. Could that have been what brought the plane down? Something to ponder. I'm not sure that it fits the time line though.
I bet ya a dollar that Mr. Ecko is building some sort of church or alter. He didn't want to tell Charlie, that's for sure. It must have been the smart ass, "is it a Starbucks" remark.
Here's a pic of Sun and Jin enjoying some fun in the sun on this tropical paradise while Hurley kicks Sawyer's ass:
Good for him. Sawyer deserved to be slapped around a bit.
This just in: Connect Four games are flying off the shelf this week at area Toys R' Us:
...and looky here at who's playing with Hurley. It's our old friend and number cruncher, Leonard:
Did I get everything? As always, I welcome your posts whether you agree or disagree with me. It looks like we will have a new episode every Wednesday except April 19th and 26th. Here's the remaining schedule which I found on The Tail Section
LOST Season 2 Episode 19 - "S.O.S." (Rose/Bernard-centric)
Airing April 12, 2006
LOST Season 2 Episode 20 - "Two For The Road"
Airing May 3, 2006
LOST Season 2 Episode 21 - "?"
Airing May 10, 2006
LOST Season 2 Episode 22 - "Three Minutes"
Airing May 17, 2006
LOST Season 2 Episode 23 - Title unknown
Airing May 24, 2006 (Season finale)
I'm sure I will be posting again later today. Thanks for reading.
Add: There are a few things that were said that I just remembered. First, while interogating Fake Henry, they ask him who his boss is? "That guy with the beard?" To which he replies, "He's nobody!" During Maternity Leave we witnessed a clean shaven Mr. Friendly say something like, "what are we going to tell him?" In Dave, Fake Henry lets the Lostaways know that Zeke is not the one running the show. I wonder who "he" is going to be?
Also, right before Dave jumped off the cliff, he says, "See you in another life Hurley." We've heard that before. Didn't Desmond say ," See you in another life, brother" to Jack when he was running the stairs at the stadium?
Take for instance...oh,hang on...*dry heave*...I'll start as soon as I get this 9 1/2 weeks image with Hurley and Libby substituting Dharma ranch and cream corn for vegetables...*bleck* Ok, I'm better now...Hey! They have been on the island over 60 days. Maybe it really has been 9 and 1/2 weeks. No way. The writers wouldn't dare.
We finally learn the Hurley/Libby connection. Earlier, I thought she may have been one of his doctors in the mental hospital. I was somewhat surprised to learn she was a patient. If your Tivo cut off then you totally missed the "Twilight Zone" ending. Here's Libby's pic from the nut house. Looks like she's a little depressed:
I assume that we will get a Libby backstory soon as to why she was in the hospital. I bet they save it for season three.
We also learn why Hurley's mom put him in the mental hospital. He blamed himself and his weight for a deck collapse that killed two people. Number alert!!! After watching this scene again or rather listening to it, I discovered that there were 23 people on the deck, and it was only meant to hold 8 people.
This accident put Hurley into a catatonic state in which all he did was eat. I'm no clinical psychologist, but the whole "Dave" thing leads me to believe that Hurley is a paranoid schizophrenic. Isn't schizophrenia in one's genes. Can it be brought about by a traumatic experience like the one Hurley had? The drug that Hurley was taking in the flashback and what he was asking Sawyer for was Clonazepam.
It's a drug used to treat seizures and control anxiety. Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but it appears that he was not on the correct meds for his true ailment.
Dave the character was steering us viewers in the direction of a theory that has long since been discussed; that this is all in Hurley's head. I'm not sure why they would take us there now except to negate that entire theory. I can only hope that the writers don't string us along and then present us with a St. Elsewhere ending. I will have to physically print out my blog and burn it in a bag of flaming pooh on JJ's doorstep if that's the case. Hopefully not.
I knew right before the doc pulled out his camera that Dave was nothing more than a figment. It was the ol' Fight Club/A Beautiful Mind set up. Two great movies by the way and I don't think I have them listed on the My Space favorite movies. Let me go add them right now.
(...no...no...stay focused.)
Let's see. What else happened?
Sayid catches fake Henry... let's call him Gary Lehen for now (Just running the Ethan Rom anagram machine on the name...you also get Helen Gary. Do we know Helen's last name? I need to go back and watch Lockdown again). Anyway, Sayid catches him in another lie about the real Henry Gale. Fake Henry...er...Gary says he was found dead in the balloon. Real Henry wrote a note on a $20 to his wife saying he was going to put out a signal fire on the beach. He couldn't have been dead. Here's a capture:
Rousseau said when they first captured him that he would lie. He says later in the episode that he is done lying. Are we to believe him about the hatch? I've said from the beginning that the hatch was nothing more than psychological training facility to see how long a subject would follow instructions. The fact that Henry says that nothing happened when the clock ran out solidifies my hypothesis... but he is a professed liar. (damn it! I'm flip-flopping again) Here's a strange screen capture:
Does he have a rope on his other wrist? Or is he just holding his arm up in the air like that? This image reminds me of some art I have seen of Christ on the Cross. I wish I could locate a picture to compare. There was a short conversation about God in this episode. Fake Henry says, "God doesn't know how long we have been here. He can't see this island any better than the rest of the world can." It says in the gospels that while Jesus was on the cross he called out, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?" The Others have been forgotten... or at least they think they have. But, why would supplies still be arriving though? I have a feeling this is just another of my way out theories.
Supplies? Hmmmm. Why didn't anyone hear a plane? It would have to be flying at a pretty high altitude to make no sound at all. And to be able to make a drop on a small island in the pacific is pretty amazing. Maybe that's where the magnet comes into play. A magnetic guide to bring the supply parachute in. Could that have been what brought the plane down? Something to ponder. I'm not sure that it fits the time line though.
I bet ya a dollar that Mr. Ecko is building some sort of church or alter. He didn't want to tell Charlie, that's for sure. It must have been the smart ass, "is it a Starbucks" remark.
Here's a pic of Sun and Jin enjoying some fun in the sun on this tropical paradise while Hurley kicks Sawyer's ass:
Good for him. Sawyer deserved to be slapped around a bit.
This just in: Connect Four games are flying off the shelf this week at area Toys R' Us:
...and looky here at who's playing with Hurley. It's our old friend and number cruncher, Leonard:
Did I get everything? As always, I welcome your posts whether you agree or disagree with me. It looks like we will have a new episode every Wednesday except April 19th and 26th. Here's the remaining schedule which I found on The Tail Section
LOST Season 2 Episode 19 - "S.O.S." (Rose/Bernard-centric)
Airing April 12, 2006
LOST Season 2 Episode 20 - "Two For The Road"
Airing May 3, 2006
LOST Season 2 Episode 21 - "?"
Airing May 10, 2006
LOST Season 2 Episode 22 - "Three Minutes"
Airing May 17, 2006
LOST Season 2 Episode 23 - Title unknown
Airing May 24, 2006 (Season finale)
I'm sure I will be posting again later today. Thanks for reading.
Add: There are a few things that were said that I just remembered. First, while interogating Fake Henry, they ask him who his boss is? "That guy with the beard?" To which he replies, "He's nobody!" During Maternity Leave we witnessed a clean shaven Mr. Friendly say something like, "what are we going to tell him?" In Dave, Fake Henry lets the Lostaways know that Zeke is not the one running the show. I wonder who "he" is going to be?
Also, right before Dave jumped off the cliff, he says, "See you in another life Hurley." We've heard that before. Didn't Desmond say ," See you in another life, brother" to Jack when he was running the stairs at the stadium?
posted by Tripp at 10:14 PM
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Here are a few of my thoughts/observations/quandries on last night's episode & sneak peeks of next weeks episode (in no particular order):
1) When we flash back to Hurley in the shrink's office, the scene begins with a shot of a poster on the wall behind the couch where Hurley is sitting. On that poster.....A picture of a beach/island.
2) At the very end, Libby and Hurley are walking away from the cliff. Hurley with a satisfied "It's going to be okay" kind of grin. Libby's face went from happily supportive, to a little bit scary. You'll have to go back and look at that one. It didn't make it look like she was crazy, it looked like she was up to something.
3) Someone needs to compile a COMPLETE list of eveyr nick name that Sawyer has used and with whom he has used it.
4) When John was talking to fake Henry (or as my sister calls him: "white Henry"), white Henry was referring to things as as "YOUR button" and "YOUR computer"... not taking any ownership of it. He was making it seem like "the others" have little or nothing to do with anything going on in the hatch. When you and I know damn well that "The Others" are really just employees of the whole Dhamra Initiative and have EVERY BIT to do with the hatch and all of it's contents.
5) Scenes from next week: The look on white Henry's face was the creepiest thing I've seen in a long time.
5a) Why does Jack think that "the others" will trade white Henry for Walt? If Zeke is considered "nobody", why on earth does he think that white Henry will have any value to them? Clearly white Henry was just a pawn in the plan of the Dharma initiative...Walt is clearly more valuable to them than white Henry.
6) The funniest line from last night: Sawyer: "Don't you have an adventure to go out on?" (paraphrase, but still funny)
7) I don't buy in to the St. Elsewhere theory. I think Hurley does have issues, but I wouldn't completely dismiss the theory about the entire castaway group is in purgatory awaiting judgement for past events. Walt's kidnapping, then, could be explained as him "moving on" to the next life and that "the others" are simply ushers for those who get to move on. OR OR OR, perhaps the whole thing IS real, and the writers are just using it as a metaphor for purgatory.
This show is too deep, man...but I've got my water wings on, and I'm ready to swim...
--a.
heres what i cought in last nights
confusing episode. i feel the writers are trying to draw us off with the saint elsewhere idea thers too many things that hurly has nothing to do with he out of the "loop" as was said in last weeks show also there was a picture of an island beach in the doc's office but i dident see any degrees which is odd for a doctor
also it looked like the island in the pic whent from day to night in the pic mabe just a shadow or something but i thought i saw it.
also we get a clue as to what year it is b/c of the 20$ bill (black ) henry wrote on was a newer bill.
im now wondering a lot about what is true about hurlys past and just how phsyco he is and is that the reason the island wants him there
and was it just me or did it seem like (white ) henry was pulling a kizer soze from the movie "The Usual Suspects" i have the feeling henry is not a pawn but a higher up and hes there to see what they know and too make the losties pull apart form within and use them for his goals
just my 2 cents
...and looky here at who's playing with Hurley. It's our old friend and number cruncher, Leonard:
What do you think of this? Maybe Leonard used to "push the button" (long before Desmond) and it drove him crazy...literally...
http://www.losthatch.com/nicknames.aspx
The writers have said in many interviews that the Lostaways are NOT in purgatory and that all will be explained. It's very easy to conlude that the island is some sort of limbo because that is probably the most simple explination. But this is a complex show... it has layers "Ogres have layers. Onions have layers..." Sorry, I drifted off into Shrek. My daughter was watching that this morning. It's not purgatory.
Hurley went to talk to Leonards wife, she knew the numbers drove him crazy, she said something to the effect of "he was in the (insert service here, navy airforce, marines etc.) he listened to nothing but static on his radio then one day all he heard was the numbers,,,, then he went berzerker. A bunch of bad thing happenend to them (Leo and wife) too. I don't remember which eppy it was. I think it was last season though....
This theory of everything being in Hurley's sub-concious (sp?) IS kinda tv-esque... It does seems like everything is starting to lead back to Hurley and "his" numbers....
Anyway, I saw on a web page that someone lined up the "holy grail-esque blast door map" to an astrological map, ya know with the Ram, leo the lion etc., I'll try and find the link today if I get time. btw that was me that posted the nicknames website.
The Not So Anonymous, Leslie, aka aaron's sister!
speaking of funny sawyer-isms, when Sawyer was opening his "oreo" cookie, and hurley said to twist it, sawyers reponse, well I should have asked the expert in the first place,,,,, ha ha ha paraphrasing of course.....i love oreo's
Leslie
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